%%EOF How long have you been involved in the shooting sports?5. Below I've posted directly what Paladin had to say about it. Where are you that leaves you vulnerable? Full credit goes to "Paladin" from CalGuns. Thank god I live in a green county where the 2A is seen as a constitutional right, Which thankfully Monterey is pretty gun freind ly. 14d. Someoftheseareascanbedarkandsecluded. Thats what my county does. Gotta be tons of people who legally carry in LA all the time. Get letter from employer supporting the application and willingness to accept liability, copies of relevant certificates/licenses, provide photos of you doing job, etc. take your valuables or harm you, or both)3. The space listed for lease is described as general office. Evidence that there has been or is likely to be an attempt on the part of a second party to do great bodily harm to the applicant. Is that better? This website is not endorsed, affiliated with,or sponsored by the NRA comes down to good cause. I made a video summarizing good cause and what that means in California counties based on the general color of them from the calguns map. (SF, LA and Alameda have this as their only acceptable GC, but I've heard Alameda & LA do not approve or deny not in conformity to their published policy. department website, or by visiting www.calguns.net for a good forum on good Each county may differ when it So, if you have a GC that is listed under Light Green below it might pass in a Yellow county. Ihonestlyfeltandbelieved. ), (7) There's something obvious about applicant that makes them particularly vulnerable to attack and thus an attractive target (e.g., an obvious physical handicap or medical issue that makes fleeing, hiding, or fighting impractical. Press J to jump to the feed. 60 Posts . Remember, Good Cause has to do with your risk level compared to the general public and not how good you are with a firearm. In kern would something such as citing crime in the area, and bringing articles etc work?I work in I.T and transport computers including my own personals computers regularly but my work has a no gun policy so I believe that is a no-go. Please refer to your classroom lesson as well as the training packet Note well there's a range within each category. Often the interviewing LEO asks you for scenarios of threats/attacks that might happen in your daily life and ask how you'd respond. ambush you while you are in a bad part of town with your valuables, follow you to or from work late at night, physically attack you while in a secluded area alone, carjacking, rape, robbery, kidnapping, physical limitation or disability that prevents you from running away or fighting back, etc.)5. Calguns.org is the back up forum for the . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. These examples can be successful when used properly in the application. I've heard from a few people that self defense is good enough in Kern, but I was wondering if a few people might be will to chine in. If applying for a RENEWAL Concealed Carry Weapon license completion of a 4-hour firearms training course with a recognized Firearms Instructor is required prior to issuance. The examples of Good Cause required are provided as examples only. While this may work with SLO Co SO, it will not with Alameda Co SO; not sure re. Especially if you have recently gotten yours. Not from there but surprised Monterey is dark green. You may wish to do more research through the sheriff's Iusethismaterialbothin, myprivatehomestudioandtobuildaninexpensivesurplusformyhighschoolstudentstouse, throughouttheyears. I was wondering about this one too. 5 years from arrest or conviction. Placer County Mine didnt even interview me. Cookie Notice See. (2) Regularly gets cash at ATMs or fills up at gas stations late at night in rough parts of town and has proof of that (e.g., receipts). I'm pretty sure Kern county's good case policy is "I leave my house sometimes". I was alone because I work late at night. Your CCW may be restricted to on-the-job only. I've heard that Sacramento County is handing them out like candy. (8) Lives in a remote area with little or no cellphone coverage and/or long LE response times. Seems like you were able to strongly prove evidence of you being at high risk for attack without having solid threats made at you. Some of us can get issued here. Include as much detail as you feel necessary, keeping in mind that specific events or threats may need to be supported with documentation including police reports. Liquor Store, Mini-Mart, Bank, Cash Only Business, Check Cashing or Hard Loan Business)5. Include the details that talk about your specific situation rather than talking about random or general threats. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Just an example only, to get you thinking in the proper As a hobby, I build vintage Harleys and Ford hotrods. Most of CA is able to get a CCW with minimum to moderate cause. Provide note from MD and/or PT on letterhead explaining condition, etc.). REUTERS/Eduardo Munoz Atty. Copyright 2014-2022 Defensive Tactics and Firearms, LLC. There's time stamps to jump around. I used that I would some times make large cash deposits. I'm in Riverside county but my IA is our local PD. (7), P365 Serial Number for CCW application (7), Why open carry is not a wise option (4), Gun Magnets with Concealed Carry Permit (17), I Know, I know, 9MM is just as good, but (43), carry in restaurants and common carriers (22), CCW Instructor recommendation for my daughter (5), DOJ Background timeline firearm clearance (0). The issuance of licenses enabling a private citizen to carry a concealed weapon (CCW) is of great concern to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. The 2nd Ammendment guaranteesthe PeopleThe Right to Keep and Bear Arms. However when I take the number of CCW permits for 2014/2015 (only counting 2015 where info is available, using 2014 when no 2015 data is available) I come up with ~76,233 statewide. Using your words, tell your true story to explain exactly what you Using your own words, write a paragraph or two that is a story about something that you have experienced that leads you to believe what you require a CCW. Why will they attack you? Press J to jump to the feed. I am in sacramento county . N.B. Our Mission: To provide professionalinstruction andtraining Ire-enteredmyvehicleanddroveinthruthegateontothejobsiteandexitedtosecurethe, gate,whentheypushedbackonthegatewithresistanceandstartedcursingmeout. Do you have any certifications?3. Privacy Policy. noting the cause for the denial. The information provided inthe training packet is TheareasIworkinarehighcrimeareasandor. Goto the link below for information This thread is in the wrong forum. Sacramento is one of them. Remember: we should win a robust 2nd A RBA from SCOTUS by 2022 July 01. Traveling with equipment holding sensitive data is a valid reason. If your good cause is you transport valuables, then write about a time when you were in fear of being attacked, robbed, or injured. Iunderstandandfullyrespectthepoweranddangertheycancausebothtomyselfand, others. (e.g. I have a white collar job, and work 3 miles away from home so not all too bummed about it. Effective immediately, the sheriff no longer needs any kind of proof of good cause or a good cause statement. I wonder who has gotten one recently there to make the map like this? amc 24 showtimes. Nice work. This letter is my formal request to be approved for a concealed carry permit by the sheriffs office. I'm in CoCo and Livingston aint having it unless you live out behind Danville. I don't really have any good cause statements that I could come up with other than the fact I work in information security and have to deal with laptops and other devices with sensitive data that I have to carry around. For all of these reasons, I respectfully request that I be granted a concealed weapons permit.Put your Statement together and put it into your own words. . Some counties in the state issue for self defense. We have met with people selling antiques at their homes, in rural areas, swap meets and higher crime areas which it would be easy for this element to ambush my wife and I in these areas hurt us and take our valuables due to law enforcement response times. CCW Policy. You need to articulate why you are personally at riskcould be as simple as felon release programs, rising crime in your area, antifa/BLM riots, and LE not being adequately funded. These examples are just that. Department: San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Department. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Talk about something that actually happened that relates back to your good cause. About 2 out of every 1000 Californians has a CCW permit. And being an armed guard for your employer is not likely to fly either. It is worth noting that the colors may be off by one color however given that someone just got their CCW in a light red county (Los Angeles) it may be worth trying if you have a "yellow" GC. discussion, the topic "preparing for your CCW interview". If you have previously been denied and you believe you have a strong case, I highly recommend applying again under the new issuing guidelines. I Know, I know, 9MM is just as good, but. 0 from Best Handgun Training for additional information. For more information, please see our The "expensive stuff in my car" line is very acceptable with OCSD. (10) Employees at heightened risk due visiting isolated locations required by their employment (e.g., female RE agents showing houses to strangers at all hours while alone). In accordance with California Penal Code 26150 et. Get letter from employer supporting the application and willingness to accept liability, copies of relevant certificates/licenses, photos of you on the job, etc. Occasionally,mytradecallsformetoworksomenightswhenitsvery. Iwasgoingtobeattacked,harmed,orpossiblykilled. Iaskedthemtoleaveand, whentheyrefused,Ithreatenedtocontactthepolice. So make sure you have a valid reason for conceal carry California before requesting CCWL. DearRiversideCountySheriffsDepartment: Thisletterismyformalrequesttobeapprovedforaconcealedcarrypermitbythesheriffs, office. And what good cause can look like for people. Ivebeenin, constructionforover15yearsandhavetraveledthroughoutSouthernCaliforniatovariousCountiesrangingfrom, LosAngelesandSanBernardinotodifferentjobsites. (10), LASD: add WML and RedDot to gun on license? This is pretty big. I don't really have any good cause statements that I could come up with other than the fact I work in information security and have to deal with laptops and other devices with sensitive data that I have to carry around. (1 2) Mauserguy. Have you had any training is the ethics or legal aspects of using lethal force?Include as much as you can, but do not exceed a couple of sentences about your experience. If your county is not listed above, we do not have information on the good cause (or just cause) requirements for that county. you and me both. TheseareasandbecauseitsstilldarkoutsidewhenIstartwork. It was obvious to me they were not there for business reasons. 504 E Alvarado St, Suite 207 Fallbrook, CA 92028 - 760.451.6694. I made a video summarizing good cause and what that means in California counties based on the general color of them from the calguns map. Your equipment is not only used (let's say it would fetch $600), but also it's stolen (might then drop that to $300). The firearm also cannot be registered as a "single shot." 4-hour firearms training course. A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. residency and 24 out of 25 did not follow their own policy on GC. I'm really glad I live in a green county. Getting The Paperwork You can get the paperwork for concealed carry applications from any local law enforcement agency. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I have heard that the sheriff was reticent to implement some COVID lockdowns and mask mandates. Personal protection or self-defense is sufficient to establish good cause with the Placer County Sheriff's Department. Thieves also frequently troll these staging areas looking for targets. I just wanted to make sure it didn't sound weird haha. These areas include several trailheads in local National Forests and Bureau of Land Management lands. Feeling that their questions were suspicious and that their back story lacked details, I made quick work of reloading my vehicle and gave them the impression that I had completed riding and was on my way out. Renewal was way way less shots at the same distances. cause and issuance policies. and our Last was two mags at 1 yard. Damn. The article in the SacBee that I reference shows Fresno as the highest and SF as lowest, but that's in the total number of permits. There was a study recently by John Lott, PhD and, IIRC, on average, >6% of Americans >18 yo have CCWs. What do they want? Both agree that California's similar law . DuetothefactthatIamacraftsman/TeacherandIworkwithalltypesofmaterialIfindmyself, havingtodriveandentersomeoffthepathplacestopurchase,usuallyincash,materialsanditemssuch, asrarewoods,agedmetalobjectsandfurniturenotavailableinlocalstores. This is simply a format to expand upon our classroom instruction and For these reasons, I am requesting that I be granted a concealed weapons permit.For these reasons, I feel that my life is in jeopardy and require the concealed weapons permit to comply with the law and protect my life.Because of this, I am afraid that I will be killed or injured. In the good cause section of the Permitium application, write N/A. For more information, please see our Inmyhonestopinion,Ibelieverobbers,thieves,drugaddictsputmeatagreaterriskofgettingharmed, becauseofthetoolsandequipmentIhavetocarryandtransport. Please note that these are his words, not mine. OvertheyearsIhaveencounteredsituationswhereIdidnotfeelcomfortable, continuingwiththepurchaseandwasabletoleavebecauseIfeltunsafewiththepeopleinvolvedand, thesurroundingsbuttherehavebeenafewtimewhereIwasunabletoturnandleavewithoutafaceto, faceconfrontationwiththeseller/sellersandhadtodefendnotonlymyselfbutthemoney,whichthey, knewIwascarrying,inordertomakemyexit. Borrow as many of the reasons that fit for you, and then be sure you can document the reasons you use with evidence. I've been told the speed of your CCW here can be quicker if you take the class with a certain instructor, "take it with X and he's got you your CCW in 2 weeks," from a few folks now. My wife and I both share a passion for antiquing, we could have anywhere from a couple hundred to thousands of dollars in cash or valuables with us. Evaluation of GC isn't black and white, but often shades of gray, a judgment call. How will they hurt or attack you? Education for the masses who dont know! Some counties require much more, some counties require much less. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This is Virtual Shall Issue because virtually all of us can get issued here. That's roughly 1 out of 500 people, infants, druggies, felons, and hookers included. by Chris Jennewein June 25, 2022 Handguns collected by New York City Police. Theres a whole forum dedicated to applying in the different counties with one thread per county. Address: 1585 Kansas Avenue, San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406. The Sheriff, upon proof that the person applying is of good moral character, that the person applying satisfies residency or business location requirements, and has completed a course of training may issue to that person a carry concealed weapons license. Gen. The finding of good cause should recognize that individuals may also face threats to their safety by virtue of their profession, business or status and by . Include as much detail as you feel necessary, keeping in mind that specific events or threats may need to be supported with documentation including police reports. For all of these reasons, I respectfully request that I be granted a concealed weapons permit.Put your Statement together and put it into your own words. Myoccupationasaspecialinspectorrequiresmetocarryandtransportvariousexpensivetoolsto, conductmywork. If other people have any experiences I would love to hear them. I live in shasta and I had a harder time getting eggs from the grocery store than getting my ccw. Cookie Notice All the below will likely pass in a Yellow county. 1. Each individual has her/her own Good Cause, and this Because of the reasons outlined above I feel that I am at risk of being injured or killed. Few of us can get issued here. Now what some may not know is how their personal "good cause" would fit in. Thenatureofmyoccupationsubjectsmetopersonalriskor, attackgreaterthanthegeneralpopulation. I am particularly at personal risk when arriving to the areas and prepping, as well as when I return from training and am cleaning and loading the equipment. This occurred in an area with poor cell phone reception where I was isolated and police response time would be considerable. Firearms Links : And Resources: OLL FAQ: GunNewsDaily: AR/AK Memo: GunCite: Threats to personal safety may be verbal or demonstrated through actual harm committed in the place of work, neighborhood or regular routes of travel for business. I don't think any of those numbers is particularly realistic at this point but I wanted to see something that gives a general sense of what the numbers should look like based on available data. Like if you use camping, be sure to have receipts for camping gear and photos showing you camping. Just FYI you just proved Cokebottle was right, .001961496 is not a percentage until you move the decimal 2 places to the right. Good cause could include, but is not limited to, verifiable documented instances of threats to the personal safety of the applicant, his or her family, or employees. He has a wife and 3 very young daughters, hes had his life threatened by inmates countless times, and lives in a pretty big town where he frequently sees inmates out and about. The reason for this increased risk is that I am a diesel mechanic and constantly transporting thousands of dollars in tools to and from my job site. While conversing with me, they asked several questions about my equipment, showed interest in it and inquired about values. Sheriff: Ian Parkinson. remoteareaswithlimitedcellphoneservice. (3) You have a medical condition (e.g., heart disease, elderly) that makes running, hiding or fighting unrealistic. Right now I shoot about once a month and completed my CCW training with Riverside Indoor Shooting Range where I have already qualified with my firearm. What is the frequency? See ~2/3rds down at: https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/s019-041/table3) Last is Virtual No Issue: this is where they issue for category #15 below and only for that. These GC policies are usually based upon CA State AG John Van de Kamp's early 1980s Opinion letter and require a number of additional conditions be present. Good Cause WorksheetWhat is the Sheriff looking for in a good cause statement?A good cause statement is a set of circumstances that distinguishes you from other members of the general public and causes you to be placed in harms way. Thanks. 130 0 obj <>stream Calguns.net Forums . I am in fear that I am a target for attack by dangerous criminals who know I work for ACME Inc and want to harm me to steak the widgets.Example: As a ___(what you do)____, I __(activity you perform)____ and that makes me a target for ___(people who want to attack you)______________________________________________________________________Step 3: - Tell Your Story:Spend 3 to 5 sentences telling them your story. Would that work in SB you think? RiversideCountyCCWcourseofferedbyDefensiveTacticsandFirearms. Alameda and contra costa is nearly impossible. When a business or occupation is of a high-risk nature and requires the applicant's presence in a dangerous environment. endorsed by any law enforcement agency. Police report #18-976543______________________________________________________________________________Step 4 Experience Level:Your level of proficiency does not necessarily count as your good cause, but it is important to add a sentence or two to your good cause statement talking about your experience and training with firearms.Do you have any certifications? (12) The nature of the business or occupation of the applicant is such that it is subject to personal risk and / or criminal attack, greater than the general population (e.g., private investigators, some lawyers, process servers, plain clothes security guards, bodyguards, fugitive recovery agents/"bounty hunters," taxi drivers). Asanexample,Ihavetocarryasarequirementanucleardensitygaugewhichisverybrightand, labeled. Most years we hunted dove, quail and duck. Was told by the chief of police to put Self defense and absolutely nothing else because thats all that was needed. For the first time ever, LA County has gone down to the Yellow Tier for Good Cause when issuing out CCW permits. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It is worth noting that the colors may be off by one color however given that someone just got their CCW in a light red county (Los Angeles) it may be worth trying if you have a "yellow" GC. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is simply a format to expand upon our classroom instruction and and our Daily? California dropped its "good cause" requirement for concealed carry permit issuance days after the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) struck down New York's proper cause requirement for concealed carry. What county is yours? I am afraid that I will be killed or injured as a result of these activities. 01-26-2023 8:28 PM by Vinnie Boombatz. For more information, please see our Provide police reports if available.Example: On a job site or work location I was confronted by 3 men who were confrontational and trespassing on private property. How will they attack you?Example: Because I walk my dogs late at night for exercise in a rural area, I fear I will be attacked by robbers looking for an easy target. Accept all carte medianav clio 4 gratuit Manage preferences. ), (6) Recreational activities that put you at a heightened risk due to the property's value or equipment's inherent danger (e.g., Craig's List seller/buyer, avid shooter who transports several semi auto pistols, rifles and/or shotguns and hundreds of rounds to various ranges or C&R collector). ..I do have another reason to conceal and it was because I go camping and offroading in the middle of nowhere with family all the time. Your CCW may be restricted to on-the-job only. A. I felt in fear for my safety and believe that I was in real danger of being attacked. (Use trail maps, calendars, log books, receipts from campgrounds and photos as proof. When I am not working as a diesel mechanic, I am also an avid antiques collector and travel around California to find good deals on antiques. When will you be attacked? Im thinking about making a video on this sort of topic and was looking to have some direct sources from people that live in restricted counties. The fact that in some counties we have to play this "kabuki theater" while in other counties "self defense" is a legitimate reason is unfortunate. My coworker recently has his CCW approved and he used that he goes camping sometimes. No more than 3 hits outside the silhouette. I also have experience hunting both deer and elk. that CA DOJ BOF is not publishing up to date CCW issuance info every year. Have you graduated from any training classes?How long have you been involved in the shooting sports?Have you had any training is the ethics or legal aspects of using lethal force?Include as much as you can, but do not exceed a couple of sentences about your experience. (e.g. He was telling growers they should have firearms on hand to prevent rip offs and because his guys can't get there quickly enough most of the time. Already one person with a "light red" Good Cause has been approved for a CCW. 99 0 obj <> endobj the policy of your local Sheriff's Department Good Cause criteria. (Proof includes police reports (if BG unknown), permanent restraining order (if BG known), evidence of current threats (e.g., audio recordings, video/pictures, written threats, etc).) You will have to select an instructor based on ones they have approved. Privacy Policy. Maybe protection from animals, little to no reception, slow LE response time for that? That's one of the reasons why we say the map may be off by 1 color in either direction. Nos. (For proof use photos of activities, value of equipment/property, sales receipts, copy of club membership card, photos of trophies won, training certificates, C&R license. Weekly? I have been told by people who work for the SO that its more about your ability to articulate your good cause than it is the actual level of good cause. How would I go about getting one in San Diego? Using your own words, write a paragraph or two that is a story about something that you have experienced that leads you to believe what you require a CCW. The article above says the "average" issuance per county is 3. https://youtu.be/wVRFjo0fFCc 86 90 90 comments CCW County CCW Information Placer County CCW Information Placer County CCW Information, Records, and Analysis Sheriff: Devon Bell Department: Placer County Sheriff's Office Address: 2929 Richardson Drive, Auburn, CA, 95603 Phone: (530) 889-7800 Fax: (530) 889-7899 CCW Web link: http://www.placer.ca.gov/SearchResults.aspx?#gsc.q=ccw copyrighted material. Due to this, I am at a high risk of criminal attack by thieves when transporting and riding this equipment. (4), Unlicensed Concealed Carry Penalties Inquiry (81), Can you get multiple CCWs from multiple Agencies? Cost for the CA CCW Renewal Class is $175.00. If applying for a NEW Concealed Carry Weapon license, a 4 to 8-hour firearms training course must be completed with a recognized Firearms Instructor prior to issuance. What about "I carry thousands of dollars worth of gun at night, so would like to concealed carry it to protect the value of the gun I'm carrying". subjectmetopossiblybecomingavictimofacarjackingoranambushtorobmeoftoolsandequipment. I actually do hike a lot. If youre in a light red county, you are not getting a CCW unless you donate large amounts of money to the sheriff, or you know them personally. (15) They are at heightened risk due to a documented "clear & present danger to life, or great bodily harm" against them or an immediate family member (e.g., crazy ex- or disgruntled fired employee, stalker, anonymous nut case/evildoer, etc.). General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California, https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/play.php?f=116. This subreddit is for the civil discussion of all things regarding California gun laws, rules, regulations and ownership. 504 E Alvarado St. #207 Fallbrook, CA 92028 760.451.6694. Hes a little guy, and kinda frail. For these reasons, I am requesting that I be granted a concealed weapons permit. Thursday, the U.S. Supreme Court issued one of its most significant gun law rulings in more than a decade, tossing out New York state's tight restrictions on who can carry a concealed gun in public. (Do you work or travel early in the morning or late at night, alone? Your CCW may be restricted to on-the-job only. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Anti Slip Coating UAE My town of Ventura has about 100,000 people, so percentage wise, there should be about 2,000 CCW permit holders, which is about right. El Dorado, (38), Unsure of Which County To Register In (10), TSA At LAX Does Enhanced Screening Because Pax Had CCW Permit (25), Traveling cross country to the Midwest - Carry in states that allow it? If an incomplete application package is . Where will you be attacked? He has done quite a bit of research into the counties to keep the community updated and I would trust his judgement when it comes to determining what kind of "good cause" you have and how that fits into the counties (i.e. Seq., and subject to Department policy and procedures, any Los Angeles County resident may be issued a CCW from the Sheriff, if qualified. This map was made by people on Calguns who have been following each county's good cause criteria for a long time.
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