Seriously??? 0000010714 00000 n Smuggling drugs or trying to get a weapon through security should be punishable to the people doing it. All such a joke, Just ban flight attendants from the program, done. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. Drugs and Medicine prohibited by the FDA; Distilled spirit absinthe (except certain diluted brands) Merchandise from embargoed countries; Items made with Dog and . Unless traveling where you go through security like everyone else. 2.3 Thats why youre smurfs. Really Will? So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. My grammar is literally better than yours so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. The system is such a complete mess, and does nothing for safety. I dont think there was EVER a 3-4 HOUR security line.except maybe right after 9/11 or perhaps a few times in AMS over the summer. xb```b``AX,n_8ya*d0)ZJR 2 70H@ That volume won't come back to the regular checkpoints. Things do NOT get fixed until the agency in question is FORCED into a state of change. Can we also ban the pilots who brought their guns, or the ones bringing their wives wine? Ive seen grandpa working like its his second career to stay busy. Sold! The Port Agent will arrange transportation to the ship's next port of call. Sporting goods, kitchen utensils, tools, and other items with sharp edges or points capable of injuring a person. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! When all of the flights are getting delayed, people will be wishing KCM was back. Advertiser Disclosure: Some links to credit cards and other products on this website will earn an affiliate commission. 0 Deny entry and inform the crewmember/s, as applicable, that they are not authorized through the KCM access point. TSAL may provide the same; subject to advance arrangement made known at least 48 hours before departure. If being a part of a society with all of its problems is too much, there is no TSA screening for general aviation. It is possible, however, that a crewmember may be selected for random screening. Dangerous Goods are items that may endanger the safety of an aircraft or persons on board the aircraft. I use KCM and live in a base. 0000056810 00000 n I'm sure many blog readers have stories of this to share. Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. I hate skipping customers in line at general, CLEAR or precheck. They are a clueless bunch of goons. A:Airlines for America (A4A) has received some reports of crewmembers experiencing technical difficulties while trying to activate a KCM account or register a KCM barcode card on themykcmsupport.comwebsite.. Crewmembers that experience technical difficulties while either activating an account or registering a KCM barcode card should contact the KCM service provider directly atkcmsupport@arinc.com. A pilot with bad intentions could more easily overpower his crewmate with a weapon. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. To protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program, you must abide by the following rules: Authorized flight crew members must travel in uniform. A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. 2,056 Sq. NO. A second non-expired government-issued photo ID. In commercial aviation, the aircrew are called flight crew. We ask for your cooperation as Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) become familiar with this KCM policy change. Hmm, your story sounds fishy. So there you go. Your password can't be a commonly used password. The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of We shouldn't put anything pass anybody. It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. I'm sorry but I simply do not want to allow anyone to be able to conduct any illegal activity via aviation; the drug crisis in the US is horrific and anyone that wants to protect their personal privileges to allow someone else to profit and kill others should simply not have those privileges. You guys walk right up to the front of the queue. Association of Flight Attendants-CWA - AFA United MEC, 2020 Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO. If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. So many of these comments are quite entertaining. The announcement comes after the TSA reportedly discovered crew members smuggling unlawful items and substances through airport security checkpoints. In fact, there is at least one pilot sitting in jail in a foreign country because he forgot he had his gun. This isnt the 1980s anymore. KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. It was thought up and the Airline pilots Union and not he Flight attendants union. Real professional comment on your part. This enhanced identity-verification and employment-confirmation system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation by removing airline pilots from passenger screening lines. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! I've come up with a plan though for my KCM screening, up 75%I now wear flip flops and a Jethro Bodine belt to then get sent to random screening! Look, your job could be replaced by a cardboard sign with a red arrow painted on it and a vending machine. Not claiming the new policy will affect my trips, only that TSA has major staffing issues at certain airports. If you look at the Number of incidents that are occurring, the majority, are all flight attendants. This enhanced process leverages current technology to provide an effective and cost-efficient solution. Interesting SMR? That's Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? I have also seen pilots try to bring animals or children through KCM with them. This is exactly why you dont want the US government telling you how to live your life or whats good for you. Common sense solutions to common sense problems. The attention is directed at the wrong people. GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no rolling back what the TSA currently does - like it or not. Queen Mary 2 is certified to carry 4,400 people (3,108 guests and 1,292 crew members). So many of these comments are quite entertaining. This includes items such as lawn darts and several baby products (for example certain seats and cribs). First, crew members appreciate having a KCM check point. How are these idiots not dumping it when tagged for random anyway?? Upon returning to work, it is recommended that the crewmember contact their airline management or crew records department to see if your KCM file has been reactivated. 0000002043 00000 n On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. The flight cannot leave or even be boarded without a full compliment of FAA mandated cabin crew. So they pick on us instead. There is automation that could easily reduce that time and move the whole process along faster for all passengers - more than offsetting the increased number of airline personnel that have to be scanned. axes, hatchets or similar. Same as everyone in front of me. Susan Hollis Garrett. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). We should not take a step backward. Are not allowed to carry property belonging to other individuals through the KCM Access Point. The TSA Special Screening Procedures (SSP) for KCM do not allow crewmembers to use a temporary government issued photo ID for access into the airport sterile area through a KCM access point. Surely if it truly were that long Donna (Karen) you absolutely would have taken a photo. So they are more likely to risk their crap paying job (as stated in the article) to make big bucks very easily. Requiring pilots to meet the same filter as a passenger or FA is sillylook what happened at German Wings A320. Or maybe you cant even afford to get on an airplane with decent crew members you have to take cheap spirit flights. You cant be responsible enough to be to work on time? These items must accompany the crew member upon . This would no longer be a joint initiative with the Air Line Pilots Association and Airlines for America, but rather would entirely be under the control of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Prior to the Known Crewmember program and their dedicated lines, it was not uncommon to spend 10-15 minutes being delayed as crew after crew cut in line to be screened before the regular users. Hair curlers containing hydrocarbon gas, up to one (1) per passenger or crew member, provided that the safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element. Get your facts straight! Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. Work closely with your union or become a rep to improve work rules and pay at your airline to make respecting your job more appealing. I wish I could taste the tears of your unfathomable sadness. 0000004455 00000 n (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Just give us a dedicated crew only lane. We are talking CLASS ACTION lawsuits for piss-poor treatment of crew. Every actual crew member reading this comment section knows you made that up. Nevertheless, we know it takes man power and probably effects their bottom-line, to manage the check point. xref And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The federal government. For everyones information, so long as the plane is on there is no need to have pilots on board while boarding passengers. Crewmembers must be fully certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)as applicable; currently employed by the aircraft operator holding an approved TSA security program; have successfully completed the Criminal History Records Check (CHRC) process; be authorized to perform crewmember duties on full all-cargo flights, scheduled passenger or public/private charter passenger flights operated under an approved security program; and have completed the aircraft operators crewmember security training as applicable. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Effective January 13, 2015, the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) Known Crewmember (KCM) requirements changed to provide crewmembers access to KCM out of uniform. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. 0000003099 00000 n Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. Someone just got on an aircraft with a box cutter and attempted to attach someone with it but lets see how many pilots making great money are willing to risk their lives and careers as drug smugglers. Ultimately, you will work with other employees and managers to ensure projects are completed on time and that our organization hits its goals. Having an off duty employee pass rider clogging up lines that they didnt subscribe/pay for is spitting into face of As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. Which is handing out band-aids and pressing buttons on an AED.after the machine TELLS you to. why would it bother you what our reactions are? I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. "Dream big and dare to fail." March 11, 1914 - June 26, 2020 (106 years old) Westchester, FL Services By Conboy-Westchester Funeral Home - Westchester George and Margaret Keller never suspected that the man terrorizing their city could be a member of their own family. Incidents onboard aircraft involving Federal Air Marshals. Seemingly every airline is telling you to arrive 2-3 hours ahead of time because you never know how many TSA employees showed up that day. If you make it through quickly, then suddenly you have to kill 2 hours in a lounge. Get mad at your (and my) own work group. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. If you are a crew member who, even ONCE, brought a firearm illegally to work, you should be randomly screened for LIFE (even if you only did it once). Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. 0000011580 00000 n Perhaps we should make it easy for flight attendants to get to the aircraft too? The MANY should not be punished, just because of the FEW. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. Known Crewmember - MyKCM Login Known Crewmember TM The Known Crewmember (KCM) website allows crewmembers to register a barcode to go through security checkpoints seamlessly. The continued success of the program is dependent upon crewmembers demonstrating that they can be trusted to comply with all related requirements. Keyboard warrior.. U must be u spirit employee yo shizzie fly attendant yo. Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join the hiring team. Flights can board with/without pilots..however, a flight cannot board without the flight attendants. I don't think any pilot would try to bring a family member through KCM when they understand that it just doesn't work that way. Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. My cousin is a flight attendant that flys internationally from South America to the United States. Right Eddie!?! Full screening. Since you dont deal with people Im going to ignore the commentary on your lack of understanding why its necessary to go through an expedited process as a flight attendant. How classist of you to assume that they wouldnt also try smuggling drugs, if not for the money then simply for the power and because they can. 0000060977 00000 n Are you worried that they might find the child porn that you regularly travel with now that you'll be going through security more often? Do not go through KCM. Known Crewmember Program Information The National Air Transportation Association (NATA) and NATA Compliance Services (NATACS) is pleased to offer the Known Crewmember Program (KCM ) to certain Part 135 and Part 125 air charter pilots. It's not rocket science. knives or knife-like (whether or not made of metal), including leather working knives. Known Crewmember is a risk-based screening system that enables TSA security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of flight crewmembers. Q:Difficulties with KCM Account Activation or Barcode Card Registration? "If It can be pumped, poured, spread or sprayed and it's more than 3.4 ounces," it needs to . NAVIGATION WARNINGS ENR 5.1 Prohibited, Restricted, and Other Areas. Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. Then you have to listen to passengers complain and ask why your late. Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? Oh youre mad because the flight attendants never treat you right. Crewmembers may use KCM access points in or out of uniform in accordance with the identification requirements above. crampons. believe it or not your not nearly as important as you would like to think you are. Guess what? A: No. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. Shoot we regularly have people with guns on the aircraft, air marshals, Leos and ffdos and if one of them snapped one day they could certainly do harm. Pilots should still be able to have KCM. Q: What should I do if I encounter a TSA screening officer who does not seem to be applying the KCM requirements correctly? TSA finds almost all guns. Why is all the blame put on flight attendants? TSOs are responsible for screening passengers and their carry- I then thank them. Sometimes there's contraband inside, and the well-meaning flight attendant had no idea. Thank you. Then go deal with management messaging and calling asking why your late to the gate because you got a random search and your flight is 3 terminals away. HVO@_qIgr&mU%x Jii7l%S~/-iL@+$gh^OFA^ ,=`no~e)b(RJHKiyW:VNXGtZF E`kpn3SkO{ QzW-aIXeAINd~#n"xOZe{u^{OF&kkZ "Strip searched" When you fabricate, you lose all credibility. Just dump your item, go though screening, exit security and you are reset to try again. (I hear at home On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. Its simply aggravation when you have to wait on a slow ass employee bus then drag your bag to security and here an offer say You wanna try your luck with a dumb ass grin on their face. I have a problem with the guy with the neck tattoo making $18 bucks an hour that moves in and out of security without a second look telling me, a retired army officer with a top secret security clearance that I need more scrutiny. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. Flight attendants are first responders..they are highly trained professionals.even if some refuse to acknowledge it. If they think after 4 years of school, $100k in training, another 4 years of grinding time as a CFI, after finally becoming a airline pilot that I would even know where to score these drugs then they must think I'm way cooler than I actually am. hungama 2 box office collection in order to get funding for another 10 years, whenin fact, they are not. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. I have heard stories of pilots and flight attendants ferrying money, drugs and electronics and that has led to the loss of this expedited service for us. Maximum penalties. They are "consensual" in name only, and that bending of the usual prohibition of unwarranted search is justified only because their primary purpose is to stop terrorists from taking weapons onto planes. Benjamin Spooner Briggs, his wife, Sarah, and the couple's 2-year-old daughter, Sophia. KCM was a tremendous privilege these years we enjoyed it. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" * link https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/02/411423341/head-of-tsa-reassigned-after-tests-reveal-security-failures, you tsa guys are cluelessspend a day in ben gurion airport (TLV) and learn what it takes to prevent a 9-11. Pilots have a lot more to lose (significant investment in their career, inability to easily switch to a different field with similar compensation, licenses, etc) than flight attendants do. ]m+o^tw?Mxw7{[7Clikcno9b. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand theKCM Rules for Useand comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. The more international travelers know about what to expect, the easier and quicker the process becomes. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? We launched Prohibited Items Week for the first time last year as a way to highlight the great work of our officers in airports across the country. You probably didn't pay too much attention to this class in training because you had 30 minutes sleep the night before because of the party/orgy but somehow managed to barely pass the multiple choice "test" anyway. I'm a 44 year flight attendant. Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. They're the offenders over and over. If the average traveller's time is worth $30 per hour, then an extra 20 minute delay costs $10. Prohibited Items Week 2021. Have a little fun with this!!! Q:How is the KCM barcode card used? However, keep in mind it is not just F/A's who have been known to smuggle items or take advantage of the benefit. Why even bother with KCM? No more shoes or belts to remove. 0000005203 00000 n TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. Money and Other Monetary Instruments Its fine. For those who say "well, they're flying the plane ." that didn't end well for the pax and rest of crew of the German flight whose pilot crashed it into a mountain after locking out his copilot, or probably MH360. That being said, as a retired airline pilot, what business is it of the TSA. When all of the flights are getting delayed, people will be wishing KCM was back. Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. Life boats are located on Deck 8. Q:What if I have not received a KCM barcode card from my participating airline? For those who abuse the line, like while going to leisure international travel, which is not permitted, an immediate 6 months suspension without pay. Direct the crewmember/s with personal international travel on their itinerary to the passenger screening checkpoint. The way I type indicates that I'm a bum and have a busted vehicle? Maybe they'll finally get it when they miss a connection or twomaybe? I hope KCM is not done away with, but kept with added safeguards to prevent abuse. It's not my business what a person freely chooses to put in their own bodynor is it government's business. Please follow TSA instructions and do not attempt to resolve the issue with transportation security officers, as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. This whole system is a mess now and its not only hurting crew members, but it will hurt passengers that have paid for TSA pre check to now have to wait for countless crews to go ahead of them. IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice Not only does he have an axe under his seat, but he could simply crash the plane. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits! Why not stop all cars on the highway and search for drugs? I'm laughing my ass off at all of these angry flight attendants and pilots saying TSA shouldn't worry about drugs lol. darts. Seriously??? That is completely wrong! And since you're so hung up on logistics, you should be able to comprehend that people in positions of need will more likely risk activities such as drug smuggling. The ones at my company who seem to be on a regular basis are the same ones complaining to the union all the time, whining all night long about this that and the other. I don't know if a single checkpoint which excorts you directly to screening. We cant forget this and need to push back against their continued scope creep in the name of self preservation. TSA is already severely understaffed at many airports. Enter your email address here and we will send you an email with your username and instructions on how to change your password. When youre randomly checked five or six times in a row, its easy to cop a tude. who cares..I pay TSA people out of my taxes to keep a 9-11 from happening again. lost an engine, no hydraulics, a decompression, or worse) onboard your next flight and YOU need the assistance of a Flight Attendant to save your life or that of a loved one! The vast majority of flight attendants are dedicated professionals, but unfortunately there have been too many examples in the news of flight attendants trying to smuggle drugs through KCM. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand these KCM Rules for Use and comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. The nerve of some of yall who give us an attitude when you get the random. As a Flight Attendant I support keeping it for the pilots. I'm a flight attendant with 34 years seniority. Dont just blame a work group. The TSO will match the identification to the crewmembers appearance and confirm the crewmembers identity and current employment status via the KCM system. You were given a privilege and exploited it. Are allowed access to TSA PreChecklanes and standard passenger screening lanes. Like other airline workers dont use a SIDA badge and go through another entrance. And I mean to the VERY front, all the way to the front of the belt. I think this KCM change may be a solution in search of a problem. 0000001314 00000 n Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, youd be hard-pressed to find someone whos actually lost the privilege permanently. Stay mad, everyone. It would make better sense to just have a baggage scanner at each KCM checkpoint but eliminate the need to X-ray scan our bodies. If you are an Employee or an Administrator (DER) please enter the information below to have a password reset emailed to you. A:The KCM barcode card is used to expedite the crewmember verification process at the KCM access points. Any self respecting smuggler can take that on one flight, depending on what drug it is. An automated enhancement to random screening/USP has been enabled in the KCM system. As for the flight attendant vs. pilot issue, the justification for including flight attendants was always that there simply was not enough volume to maintain KCM checkpoints just for pilots. Do you know how early we have to arrive to be on time and not get paid? The first step should be eliminating flight attendants from any expedited screening program. CDCCheck is a web-based, touchless and digitized solution from DepartureCheck that complies with the documentation, attestation and record-keeping requirements of this order. 911? SIDA badge holder to carry it into the sterile area then give to the FA for delivery - many SIDA badge holders make less than FAs with easy entry into a position as long as they have a clean-ish background. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. That should have never been allowed any more than ground workers could access special security lines when traveling.