@605 I sure hope that those are incorrect facts. Just answer these questions my friend, and you will know if youre a preterist scripture denying disciple of Calvin or a Bible believing follower of Jesus! Others who knew of this pastors sin and felt the Lords call to also speak up, had dead birds put in their mailboxes and were threatened in other ways as well. God sees everything. Just saying. What???? Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Its not speculation. Also keep in mind that many here have something in common and that is bad experiences with churches and pastors, while some of us remain to try and minister and fellowship, as well as listen and empathize, with those hurts. You wont get hard news from them on one of the Sacred Cowsunless maybe a Ted Haggard b/c it was dude on dude. I will be praying for CCFTL and the Coy family; this is going to be felt a very long time indeed. Im doubting your ability to graciously recognize that many other Christians have come to other conclusions using the same Bible as your own. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. 2016) Sibling: Not Available: Children: Not Available: Bob Coy Net Worth. He was forced to resign. You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. Diane Schuler, her daughter Erin, and her three nieces also died in the crash. David Jeremiah was right. I have sympathy for this man (and especially his innocent family) because the Lord is instructing me in compassion, I also know that it has taken many years for my family to recover from the harm and hypocrisy of the leadership of this church under the helm of this man. Smith was among the first pastors to make a startling discovery: Many of the hippies and disaffected youth who'd come for the Summer of Love had realized psychedelic drugs and the Grateful Dead weren't filling the holes in their lives. Bob did this, not me. If the congregation projects their own meaning onto what moral failure meanswellthere are as many meanings as congregants and not a one really knows what happened. All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth, requires our unreserved submission in all areas of life. I ran my story Saturday afternoon. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. The last thing we need to do is turn on each other over this because first, There is nothing new under the sun Second, we have a whole unbelieving world out there that will be looking for an explanation and answers and we are focused on discrediting each other and being right??? His name was Bob Coy, and until the previous year, he'd been the most famous Evangelical pastor in Florida. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. Then all were invited up to search their hearts. I will be giving more information as it is vetted. And aside from that she was not making millions telling others not to do like wise. According to an August 2015 report provided to The Christian Post by the Coral Springs Police Department, a mother living in Southern California reported that her then 17-year-old daughtercame forward, saying she had been sexually abused by Coy for years. The church won't say, though a spokesman says the chapel was "saddened to hear of the allegations." Whats the big deal Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is not in Costa Mesa. A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television, and digital media has also been suspended, according to a statement from the church board. It pains me to see the enemy has won this battle, but know he will not win the war! Martin Luthers Disciple ~ Take heed proud guy, least you with all your proud grace fall also. Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! Ushers passed tissue boxes down the rows as his followers wept. Dont give the devil his way and cast stones. Although he's spent years away from the altar, Coy still looks straight out of central casting for a hip Evangelical preacher. [9] We took our kids out of the pool at 4 PM to make a 6 PM service. I didnt bring him up. Lusting, stealing, cursing, etc. Thats just the sad reality of sin I forgive you. one more thing. See Against Heresies, Book V. He was refuting arch heretics Marcion and Valentinus who taught amillennialism. Barbara, You will have to do the homework. Funny how theres one standard someone has about bearing false witness to their buddy and another one for me. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. No, your position has replaced Jesus Christ who is the sum and substance of all prophecy, with the nation state of Israel. Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. There should be no quick fix restorations. I have no crusading vendetta. And the evil one must be ecstatic to see this! Fidel has mentioned cheating on Theresa several, several times during his sermons. Most commentators will agree that seven times is seven complete revolutions of time, being a unit of a year for each time. Lots of times these powerful pastors mete out some discipline or are heavy-handed with a churchgoer and not as gracious as they could have been or maybe the pastor was wrong the sheep was rightand then the pastor gives them the left foot of fellowship and the rest of the ginormous following does the shunning etc.so I understand why some will have their moment of glee over this. When all you know about a position is the way it is caricatured you should avoid comment. The internetbeing able to attend service from your computer also became possible. If Bob Coy is truly repentant we go with restoration, recovering a brother, and we take measures that heal. Your silence at the question presented to you is not a projection but a resounding answer to your hypocrisy, and the points I present are nowhere addressed, except to say Im an angry man, didnt Jesus speak of righteous indignation, but what did he say of cowards and hypocrites? http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-megachurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale, Ok, Ill just vent then. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!! 3. Notice how all Christians are all supposed to get along with one another, kumbayah, and yet when a (secondary?) Most of those folks may stop sinning in some areas, but then the sin of pride and self-righteousness (which the bible says god hates) seems to dog this Group post-saved. Process and healing will take time. We have an enemy and it is not Pastor Bob. The case was closed in 2016. Is God through with the nation of Israel? ?..he was a FRAUD. A dear friends daughter became a Coy-ite while pursuing a degree in the Ft. Lauderdale area, and my friend jumped on the bandwagon after visiting CC during a trip down there. Read some of the reports from that nightits all over the place in reputable sources. My information says fired. what is your real motives for this? 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, What kind of a pit will hold a non bodied being like Satan. MLD, so Isaiah is the Old Testament, therefore it is invalid. Because the whole reason to deal with this kind of sin in the community is what it does to the community. Born in 1955 and raised in Royal Oak, a suburb north of Detroit, he grew up in a strict Lutheran family but didn't buy into the church. Not to stir strife, but some of us dont agree and wont be comfortable there. Pride paves the way to infidelity and/or sexual indiscretions. Some in the CCA and CCFTL have tried to make me out to be the one caught in gross sin and any opportunity to discredit me will be taken. Loss of respect. A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. Im sorry for you and your pain. We all sin. I love this while trying to mock me Flynn said I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said:. You can listen at their website. Why was he bound and have we seen the results of that binding? Neither of them has shown their face since all this broke. I am glad to see the Board either making a deal to buy Coy out or maybe the Board had the power in the by-laws to deal with a moral failure like thisdunno, but do know that you cant really have a CC-style church that puts some much emphasis on their brand of transformation Gospel while pointing fingers at those outside the church for stuff like gay marriage etcand then have a guy in that CC pulpit that is addicted to p0rn and having relations with multiple women who are not his wife. Anything at all? He was the multi million dollar big shot who was an actor on stage . He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. The point is that sin is a type of adultery against God, if we are the bride of Christ, lying, lust cheating or anything that puts something in front of Christ is an adultery because it violates that covenant. Coddington was known for clean, elegant designs combining old school with what would come to be known as the "Boyd Look". Bob chose and Bob did it. Lorenzo, You have an obsessive form of projection, as evidenced by your post here, from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife. I will leave you alone to work on the Acts 2 passage it destroys the future 1,000 yr earthy reign. Especially when you twist the truth and cannot backup your allegations. Doesnt the Bible tell us to avert our eyes and not look on the oher woman? And the leak from the board was no doubt insurance against a coup detat of bob-loyalists attempting to unseat the floundering-shell-shocked and in charge for the very first time board. Do you ever think about the emotional damage you cause these women or the families you break up? The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. Well, Coy will have a chance b/c it sounds like its women and not men. They have been given that power, as was Coy. If one sticks around for awhile, those friendships and identities will develop. Jake and his mother were like her own sons to her. donny, I asked politely. Police later spoke with the victim in September 2015, but she said she was not sure whether she wanted to go through with a criminal investigation or testify. After all, the lion was supposed to lay down with the lamb, and yet, the lions keep eating the lambs. CCFL is currently led by Pastor Doug Sauder. Normally Chuck would have not wasted this asset unless what Coy did was to outrageous to cover up. But there is a big difference. If you never lived together with others then you have never lead Jesus Style and problems will eventually surface when you fail to lead in this way. The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. , ; , . in fact, when the idea is brought up, Jesus denies he has a reign here on earth. I did. "I can't discuss it on the record," he said, before adding cryptically: "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people.". Ill be blunt. Thats not being victimized, thats being tempted by women who need healing not exploitation. If there wasnt grace then all would be toast. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. I pray that Bob Coy hasnt left decades of bodies in his wake, and I will be praying for them (nameless as they may be to me) and for his church and family to recover. Your. Sorry that I crashed your little party! Nice try. If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! Will try and just observe rather than contribute. They are being good guardians and deserve no finger pointingjust applause for being brave and having the character to do such a thing. Larry Erickson, later the chief designer of the Mustang and Thunderbird for Ford Motor Co., worked with Coddington early on, and specifically credits the CadZZilla collaboration for jump-starting his career. Oh yeah lets take care of that child playing with a snake, the snake is actually a licorice stick, nope no millennium there! I'll never forget that meeting.". Want it to stop. And I can name an endless list of Calvinists who have won tens of thousands to Christ. This doesnt directly have to do with the issue on hand but just some insight .. Coy's preaching career ended with shocking speed, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary Chapel. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the basilisks den. He might have won this particular battle, at least temporarily but we read the ending to the story and The Lord Wins and us with Him ! . After his preaching career ended, he landed work managing the Funky Biscuit, a nightclub in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. When I say I have no sympathy for the adulterer, I mean I dont but the excuses oh, he was tempted (the other womans fault) oh he is a celebrity (other people s fault for putting him up too hign) -oh, well his wife got fat and ugly you can go on and on. There was a time many years ago that many good families were leaving. Whether it be true or not we will always love Pastor Bob and Diane. Pride is something that could be seen from his pulpit for many years now. Who killed her? A call to Coy on Sunday (April 6) was not returned. That is Calvary Chapels biggest failure, an arrogant view of the Pastor and his ability to be Jesusand its made worse when the congregants know this and still support a flawed leadership model that is a corrupting force among the Pastors in Calvary Chapel. All this stuff about Love Out Loud was a big con.. How many people did Coy or Calvary go after that left the church.Coy never did he didn;t care. Leadership is not a right, its a privilege. Want me to tell you the amount of their FPL bill? Its a constant throughout human history. The Asst Pastors are not as annointed or equiped imho- and frankly I cant deal with Chets over the top, Broadwayesque mannerisms read: distraction. The pit does not really have a padlock on it etc ) but in all that symbolism, we should take the 1,000 yrs literally? He wrote a very good book, I Was Wrong in 1996. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. MLD, I dont know anything about Babylons Dread. Read his account here and give me the answer: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-and-the-Blood-of-Martin-Luther-King.html. If Ive just offended anyone, well tough, but read through this thread and I think youll see it, and if you dont, may HE show you sooner than later. We have been waiting for him to make things right. Its a gift you have that really helps me have a better understanding of things. I suspect that the laughs made him realize it worked..got more people in and maybe it became like a treadmill that you can never get off of. Beyond that, Ive got absolutely nothing. That case was settled out of court, but the attorney who brought the case says that, in general terms, Smith's habit of forgiving and rehiring pastors who have committed sexual offenses is a recipe for disaster. Dont over react to what you see here. Bob Coy is the tip of the iceberg and gets special attention because of his position, but his fellow sinners are legion. Those in moral authority are more accountable than the flock. I personally experienced an unfaithful fianc prior to the wedding and she was very involved in the church so I can sympathize as well as empathize on this issue. Your right Dusty. I fight another battle and if you click on my erunner name it will take you to the blog Ive run for six years because of the help of Michael who runs this blog. 2. Please remember the mercy and forgiveness that out Heavenly Father has shown you before you judge or cast stones. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. The Charisma article makes it sound like Coy will be back soon.A little rest, a little prayer, some CCFL counseling, a tweak here and a tweak there, problem all gone. Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. "We need to stop him. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! you did well last night, you were being played, and you still shown like a bright light in the dark! I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. We dont speculate. local news and culture, Tim Elfrink It was supposed to be raised for a new sanctuary that was to be at the North-East part of the property near the canal and would take up part of the main front parking lot. Nobody should jugde him he is human NOT god. Of. Thank you! I reject his whole eschatological scheme, so I could care less. 7. they were generous givers. Anonymous I know what youre speaking about there was defiantly is a we know better attitude through the church as is with any structured environment but I on at least (3) occasions took Bob to task on issues I questioned and each time he heard and reasoned with me, one time conceded, one time there was a healing between two churches and one time we agreed I was taking a bit too much license and should stay on the set point to which I conceded. One problem with doing research, particularly through the internet search engines, is that you will find whatever you are looking for. She was driving aggressively in the wrong direction as she was delayed by traffic to reach the destination, reported Gone Too Soon Fandom Wiki. Did Jesus forget or had he not yet read the play book? None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. ), and the Christians will take over all the positions of government and usher in the return of Christ, and heres the kicker, all the prophecies have already taken place, 666 on the forehead or right hand is symbolic tooWow so much I missed because according to the preterist the prophecy of the Euphrates river drying up and a 200 million men army and the giants of the east being woken up and islands sinking into the ocean and 70 pound boulders falling from heaven, in a tribulation period never before experienced in the history of man, and all the plagues of revelation, all that has already taken place, yes folks back in 70 AD when Nero, who by the way was the Antichrist, sacked Jerusalem, gee I guess he had all the power of Satan, and the false prophet, well well have to spiritualize that one too. Grace indeed but the truth needs to come out. Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. Coral Ridge is a congregation of the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA). Please dont forget them in your prayers that God will put godly counselors in their paths to help them with their pain, their fear, and more than likely their doubt in their own faith. Dusty, Youre too kind. Derek I blame cheating not on power and authority but on mans dual nature and non-transformed salvation. Please click here to learn how. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adders den. All. It is difficult to go to church and see this level of temptation going on. Christ the Rock suffered its own scandal a while back and I heard that Pastor set up camp at a near location. I listened to the message at calvary today. Embrace him. It cant be, for me and for the entire planet. Hey, Open Blogging was closed and I would usually post something like this there, but I really liked this book and wanted people to get a review of it and see why I liked it. The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. Anonymity has been part of my schtick too for most of the time here. I would not want to be the substitute teacher tomorrow morning. Ive experienced firsthand how these women throw themselves at him and its disgusting. Its because we do sin. People would drive by our home, honk their horns and scream terrible things at us. You will tow the line no matter what. Im just sick to death of Christians jumping all over each other when theyve fallen. Not judge him!! Within a few days you will too. For the people at CC Fort Lauderdale, and the family of Bob Coy we should grieve and pray for the pain and disappointment, and even betrayal they must feel. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him who was grabbed? "If you're broken, Jesus will be gentle with you in your anger and disillusionment," Sauder said. I suffered many years after leaving this church. When my wife and I first started attending CCFL in 93 he preached with humility and it was refreshing. THAT pastor contacted the board. So Blessed to hear this,what an awesome speaker,God Bless You Diane! I am not honking my own horn here, either. Trusting in Gods providence, protection, provision and direction, the staff of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale will continue our mission to make disciples, through regular services at all campuses and through myriad other ministries the church has established over the years.. Are we to perform a witch hunt now? I dont give a rip if you allow this past the moderation phase or not! Lets wait and see how many he harassed and pressured. With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. I do not have an exact timeline for when the board fired Coy, but they are the ones who have chosen to not speak to the situation yet. What about Calvary Chapel West Palm Beach, did that one survive the CC Florida curse? I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. Here we are, with sicknesses, war, hate, famine, destruction world wide. Your pastorking has gotten caught. RiBo, Im with Michael on this one too.maybe they are calling in moral failure so he can be back in the saddle in a few months.though with his name on the deed and the book sales, he may not even care.set for life. Ive heard bits and pieces of it, but never read it all. I sincerely hope the congregation not only survives it all but even thrives. May God have mercy, and may God use situations like this to remind all of us just how vulnerable we are when we do that which is right in our own eyes. It was about Joshua getting into the promised land-thats why I had thought it was graduation. But to be honest, I dont think eschatology should be a dividing line doctrine that some folks put it into. . Bob, Anons #472 is absolutely true. Really? Ive experienced firsthand how these women throw themselves at him and its disgusting.. MLD, Acts 2 has nothing to do with Revelations description of the 1000 years. As a pastor, I dont want people to blindly follow me. And pray with you for repentance! Just like you were proven wrong about the giving of the Holy Spirit requiring baptism. Like his mentor Smith, he looked for converts in unusual places. The message to Nebuchadnezzar is however long it takes for you to learn who is the Most High God.. Who ever got that car? I think that would be helpful to know. I had not heard it before today and I am glad I did. It is a pretty open forum with some troubled and offensive types, but also many who have learned through experience to get things into perspective. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. He knew that all along. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones.
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